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Gregory asked:
Do you have anybody who can realize ground works, boiler installation and so on in Moscow region? How much will it approximately cost?
Editor answer:
Hello. Of course, we are ready to take upon ourselves all the works which accompany gasification. As for the cost, I recommend you to address our office and our manager will tell you everything. The contacts are here:http://antonio-merloni.ru/stores
Oleg asked:
Capacity 2250. What does red sector lower than 20% from the level indicator mark mean? At which minimum gas level and pressure it is required to charge a gas tank?
Editor answer:
Hello. Red indicator just means that there are left very few gas, less than 20%. Gas tanks will give in required volumes till the gas will completely be finished. And when to charge it’s you who decide. Our recommendation is to call for gas carrier when there will be left 10-15 percent.
Prokhorov Sergey asked:
Could you please advise how to do with the question of heating for my future three floors brick countryside house with total area of 400 sq.m. which is situated in Surgut?
Editor answer:
Hello. There are two main types of heating: they are liquid and air. Air heating on gas convectors contrary to traditional liquid one has some advantages like the absence of liquid heat carrier, complete energy independence, high flexibility and the possibility to adjust. It is mounted and adjusted fast. See more details on the website: http://prosto-teplo.ru/
Aleksander asked:
Good afternoon.1.How long can gas stay in a gas tank without losing its consumer performances?2.Is the final amount for any gas tank the barrel price + 30% (delivery, mount) without ground works?3.Will your representative in Novosibirsk be able to mount equipment on Altay and provide with charge?4.How much gas does CDMO 10.5 kW gas generator consume to produce 1 kW of energy?
Editor answer:
Hello. Gas can stay in gas tank as such time as you need without losing its consumer performances. The final amount is individual in each case and depends only on the distance till the object and on the type of mounting: LUX or ECO. The question of gas tank installation on Altay can be solved; our installers from Moscow will come and will do everything. Or you can make everything by the local efforts. The questions of charging should be worked out on place but according to the experience no one region had significant problems with this. To produce 1 kW/h gas generator consumes about 300 g of liquefied gas.
Aleksey asked:
Thank you for your reply.As for gas tanks everything is clear from your earlier answers but what would be the cost of that station which you are speaking about?Editor answerCDMO gas generator for 10,5 kW, 220W costs 6500 Euro.
Editor answer:
Газогенератор CDMO Франция на 10,5 Квт. 220 вольт стоит 6500 евро.
Aleksey asked:
Hood afternoon.Please, advise if it’s possible using gas tank to solve not only a question of heating but also a questions of complete electric power supply for 2-floors countryside house with total area of 100 sq.m. Which solutions would you recommend? Electricity is required all around the year (it is absent at all) but the heat – only during winter period,
Editor answer:
Hello. Using gas you can make your house comeletely independent. We can install you gas generator which will provide your house with electric power. It will not be stand-by generator but gas-fired plant of continuous operation. Also it’s possible to install a system of air heating which doesn’t depend on electricity.
Aleksander Bryansk asked:
Do you have a representative in Bryansk to install 5000L as tanks?
Editor answer:
Hello. We have a representative in Bryansk, Konopel’kin Aleksander Alekseevich. His phone number is 8-909-244-04-18. If you have any difficulties with him, contact our office in Moscow, we will help you to solve all the problems.
andrey asked:
House in Arkhangelsk, 175 m2, 1 floor, heat insulated – the possibility to install a cistern no closer than 23 meters from the house, plus the length of the house 17 meters till the boiler room. Do you have representatives in our region or does your company have the possibility to mount equipment. What are the dates and prices (cistern approximately 5000)? Thank you.
Editor answer:
Hello. Unfortunately we don’t have a representative in Arkhangelsk for a moment. But we can organize direct sale from Moscow. If necessary we will send you installers who will mount a system on place and will launch it. Also you will be able to mount equipment by yourselves. We developed a new system of gas tank connection which doesn’t require special instruments and equipment. The cost of a gas tank including “LUX” connection set is 8905 Euro. We’ll make a delivery to your place by transport company.
Vitaly asked:
Good afternoon. I’ve read about gas tank charging by summer and winter gas composition. Could you please give your comments?
Editor answer:
Hello. The biggest part of vertical gas tank is always situated lower than ground freezing level i.e. in the area of positive temperatures. So, any gas, even if it’s pure butane, (boiling temperature is around 0,5 degrees) will boil giving to your boiler necessary quantity of gas. So, the type of gas, summer or winter, does not play any role in vertical gas tanks. And the more “summer” gas is charged, the better it is. Because butane whose quantity is bigger in summer gas, is more energy-consuming.
igor asked:
Hello. How long will be enough one charge of 2250L cistern, an average air temperature – 15. House of 200m.Thank you.
Editor answer:
Hello. It’s quit complicated to calculate energy consumption for the certain house; in each case gas flow rate is individual. According to our experience considering this house area with normal heat insulation gas tanks with capacity of 2250 liters will be enough for you for 3-4 month during cold period.
Andrey asked:
How come that there is no in Novokuznetsk? In your message to Misha dated 11.12.2013 you affirmed that you had in Novokuznetsk and Kemerovo, and you din’t have in Altai.Inconsistency?
Editor answer:
Hello. It’s really inconsistency. Sprinkle ashes upon my head. )) I twisted up Novokuznetsk and Novosibirsk. We really don’t have in Novokuznetsk but in Novosibirsk.
Andrey asked:
I forgot to precise:1.Who realizes mounting in Novokuznetsk?2.What is the price for propane in Novokuznetsk to charge 2250L gas tank?3.Are there any reliable fuel chargers who will agree to come and charge such small volume to this gas tank in Novokuznetsk?
Editor answer:
Hello. For a moment we don’t have representatives in Novokuznetsk but we can organize a sale from Moscow with our installers on-site visit. As for the information about gas, it’s better to check it on place. If there is a gas fuel filling station they certainly will be interested to sell gas not 30-70 liters but 2000 liters at once. Contact our office, better by skype, we’ll discuss all details.
Natalya asked:
Good afternoon.Please, advise which gas tank should be installed for a house of 118 sq.m. – summer house according to Canadian technology, 150 mm heat insulation, inconstant accommodation of 4 people.What is the cost and delivery to Moscow region, Sergiev –Posad district?
Editor answer:
Hello. For your house it will be fine to install 1650L gas tank. The price to arrange a system of independent gasification on its base will be 5800-5900 Euro. This price includes the equipment itself, its delivery to your place and mounting.
Oleg asked:
Hello! Is it possible to deliver 2250L gas tank to Primorski Krai, Artem (Vladivostok) and what would be an approximate transportation cost? Will 2250L enough to heat 185m house? Who can I contact to solve this question?
Editor answer:
Hello. To deliver equipment across Russia we use services of transport companies. It will cost 40 thousand till Vladivostok. Here you should add delivery cost to the warehouse of transport company in Moscow and delivery cost from the warehouse of transport company in Vladivostok to the object in Artem. The cargo should be obligatorily insured. Output rate of vertical gas tank with 2250L capacity will be enough to heat your house. You can contact us by any phone number which you will find here: http://antonio-merloni.ru/stores
Andrey asked:
Hello!Although I live in the country region with the biggest quantities of coal, I don’t have a great desire to pay 20 thousand rubles for a truck with coal to use it for heating; but previously I should carry it to the storage place and then to the house; all this time I should work as a coal-heaver.Please, advise, how much a bucket for 1650-2250L will cost including installation inNovokuznetsk?
Editor answer:
Hello. 2250L gas tank with mounting will cost approximately 240 thousand rubles including all necessary materials. 1650L gas tank is approximately 20 thousand rubes chipper. Delivery to your place will cost about 40 thousand. If you’ll be able to realize mounting by yourselves you will significantly save on our installer visit to you. We developed new unique mounting technology which doesn’t require any special instrument and allows to realize mounting by yourselves.
Aleksey Alekseevich asked:
How to install a system in Chelyabinsk?
Editor answer:
Hello. We have organized sales and installations in different regions of Russia beginning from St.Petersburg till Yakutsk. Contact our office and we’ll discuss with you the procedure.
misha asked:
good afternoon. The question is what to do with condensate which masses up on the bottom of a gas tank; which cleaning system, which gas to use to charge, propane, methane, how many liters in real are in 1000 and 1650? Are there any contacts in Altay?
Editor answer:
Hello. For removal of non-evaporated remains, gas tank is provided with special port: liquid draw off port. Gas tank is charged by liquefied gas – by the mixture of propane and butane or by pure propane or butane. According to the rules, cisterns for liquefied gas are fulfilled for 85% of their geometrical measurements. Consequently 1000L gas tank can fit 850L of gas and 1650 – 1402,5L. Unfortunately we don’t have a representative on Altay. The closet ones are in Kemerovo and Novosibirsk.
Vladimir asked:
Ok. I wonder why Russian manufacturers give 20 years of service life, and no more! What’s the difference?
Editor answer:
Here are several reasons. The thickness (10mm) and the quality of steel, multilayered polymer coat from Carboline Company outside of the cistern, polymer coat from inside of the cistern, protective Marsupio bag which provides unique protection under the ground. And as the last frontier – passive electrochemical protection with the weight from 20 kg for small cisterns till almost forty – for the biggest one. All these precautions allow to lengthen life of the gas tank till minimum fifty years.
Vladimir asked:
Good afternoon!What is the service life of your cisterns?Thank you.
Editor answer:
Hello! Projected service life of Antonio Merloni gas tanks is 50 years.
Pyotr Zhuravlev asked:
Hello!There is required heating for a church with area of approximately 300 m2, but the ceiling is high, construction dated XIX century. Can you install completely all the system including underground cistern, gas water-heating boiler with non-freezing heat carrier like car antifreeze, gas water heater for housekeeping needs and hearing radiators? For a moment it’s heated by wood.
Editor answer:
Hello. Yes, of course we can completely provide your object with warmth and hot water. To make preliminary calculation of gasification and heating cost please, inform about the location of the church and send its design to the e-mail address: info@antonio-merloni.ru
valery asked:
The house is situated in Moscow region, Mozhaysky district, Borodino village. House area is 100 sq.m. What would be cost of delivery and “KEY-READY” installation for your equipment? Thank you.
Editor answer:
Hello. Complete set including 1650L gas tank will cost: 5496 Euro with standard eco mounting and 5796 Euro with lux mounting. Using 1000 liter gas tanks the figures will be the following: 5096 and 5396 Euro accordingly. The price doesn’t include the cost of ground works. Call us!
Andrey asked:
House 120m2 (the total area made of gas silicate, heat insulated + bricks). Considering proposal from your website recommended gas tank is 1650m3. In forum you advise bigger one. What is the reason and what is the difference between eco mount and lux mount? Is electricity required for gas tank operating? Who realizes excavation for a pit? Which warranty and for what does your company provide?
Editor answer:
Hello. For your house it will be sufficient 1650L gas tank as it’s mentioned on our website. An advice to install 2250L cistern is explained by the fact that the difference in price to install 1650 liters and 2250 liters will be only 500 Euro. For this money you will get 600 liters capacity more. Realizing eco mounting gas pipe is not led- in the building but just fixed to the house from outside. Lux mounting supposes socket inlet painted in yellow by powder enamel, it is equipped by Italian frost-resistant cock and lead-in of the pipe to the house. All the details are made on the factory and don’t require welding works on the object. Gas tank is completely energy independent. Pit and trench should be prepared by a client or we can do that by agreement. Warranty for the works is one year. Warranty for equipment is according to legislative requirements and requirements of the factories from 1 to 3 years.
Artem asked:
Hello. I live in Rostov region, NOVOSHAKHTINSK, is there a representative who can give and advise, thank you in advance, ,+79064294210
Editor answer:
Hello. Today our sales agent will contact you.
Aleksander Bryansk asked:
How much will it cost to charge a gas tank with capacity of 5000L, every year in Bryansk?
Editor answer:
To charge gas tank with gas by local fuel service will cost you 65-68 thousand rubles. To carry gas from Moscow will reach 90 thousand. Also please, pay attention that the price for gas very much varies depending on the season. In autumn the price is the highest, in spring it will drop till 2-3 rubles per liter.
Aleksander Aleksandrovich asked:
Hello dear editor! Please, advise if you have Antonio Merloni representative in Ukraine similar to Terrikom?
Editor answer:
Hello! GC Terrikom is the only one representative of Antonio Merloni on the territory of all former Soviet Union. As for collaboration or equipment purchase I invite you to address by contact phone numbers.
Aleksander asked:
2 houses in Bryansk, 120 sq.m. each. Heating, hot water and electric power. Which cistern is required, the cost for “key-ready” works. And annual charge in Bryansk. Thank you!
Editor answer:
Hello! In your case it makes sense to install for each house gas tanks with 2250L capacity. Or alternatively one with 5000 liters. The cost for works including equipment will be 430-440 thousand rubles. There will not be any problems to charge in your region. Call us and we’ll help!
Andrey asked:
I have a house made of gas silicate 375 mm, plus it is heat insulated from outside by Rockwool Venti-Batts 80mm. Basement is heat-insulated by 100mm pentoplex. Floors – 250mm, ceiling – 300mm (Rockwool density – 150). Windows in the house are plastic, triple-pane. Outside finish – siding. House area is 125 square meters. Which aggregate is required, with complete mount and warranty, in Odintsovsky district? Heating, Stove, Water. Thank you in advance. 1969200@bk.ru
Editor answer:
Hello. For your house it will be appropriate 2250 liters gas tank. Ground works area will be 2x2 or a circle with two meter diameter. The price for full volume of works including equipment is about 250 thousand rubles. We can calculate more precisely if you give us the name of the locality where your gas tank will be installed.
Sergey asked:
Thank you for your prompt reply. However it’s difficult to understand the phone number just with the name…)I sent you once again one table; I will allow myself to send you also another one but from another operator. Auto gas. Service charge – avtonomgaz(dot)ru/textparts.php?tid=115.Could you please give your comments?
Editor answer:
This table presents wrong information. Maintenance of our gas tanks comes to visual inspection and, if necessary, blowdown of reducing gears to delete moisture. These operations are made free of charge by charger. The phone number is the post below.
Sergey asked:
Good afternoon. Concerning representative in N. Chelny: it seems that your website has out-dated information; he says that he is not in charge of it anymore. Please, advise if you have anybody here. Also please, give your comments: “Comparative characteristics of gas tanks” gazgolder-ru dot ru/sravhar.html; does this table show a real situation? Italy there is little bit pushed in. In case the cistern will be install by my own efforts, how attend studying courses?
Editor answer:
Address to agent Popudrenko Donat Valentinovich in N.Chelny 8-905-373-61-64 or 8-905-370-28-74. He will help to mount a system. As for the link to gazgolder-ru. The information does not correspond to the facts beginning from the wall thickness and ending by cistern heating. All described in the table does not have documentary support. This is authors’ phantom of the imagination.
Oleg asked:
What is the cost of annual maintenance?
Editor answer:
Maintenance of vertical gas tanks from Antonio Merloni comes to visual inspection and blowdown of reducing gears (if necessary) and realized by charger during charging. We don’t ask for any money here.
gennady asked:
Which approval documents are required to install gas tank and then use it? Is it necessary to register it in Rostechnadzor?
Editor answer:
Hello. Installation and use of a system of independent gasification in private house does not require any approval documents. If it is a company or the rate of energy consuming equipment is more than 100 kW it is required a registration in Rostechnadzor.
Mikhail asked:
Good afternoon. I have not very big house of 80 sq.m. and 3 decares of land. Please, advise if it’s possible to install a gas tank for 1650 liters? What are the requirements to the installation and what would be the “key-ready” cost?
Editor answer:
Hello. Installing a gas tank on the lot you should observe some conditions where the main one is minimum distance from the constructions. You should place your gas tank no closer than 5 meters from the house. Creative approach to this problem allows to find solution for almost any situation. Contact us and I’m sure we’ll be able to solve this problem. We’ll also calculate delivery cost especially for your house.
andrey asked:
I need warmth for 1000m2Moscow region89067422173
Editor answer:
Hello. For your conditions there will be appropriate our product “Double configuration” 10000. More detailed: http://antonio-merloni.ru/solution7. Today our expert will contact you.
Igor asked:
I have a house in Rostov region, in Novocherkassk; do you have a representative in Rostov that he could an advice?Tel. 89081962549;
Editor answer:
Unfortunately we don’t have a representative for a moment. But we can organize a direct sale to you from Moscow. To specify all details we will call you today.
Andrey asked:
Do you have a representative in Karelia?
Editor answer:
Hello. Contact Karpinsky Vladislav NikolaevichSales agent in Republic of KareliaTel.: 8-921-228-17-42, 8-8142-28-17-42 Skype: otmaar E-mail: karpinskiy-terrikom@mail.ru
Sergey asked:
Good afternoon!Do you a representative in Krasnodar?
Editor answer:
Hello. Address our sales agent in Krasnodar Krai, Maltsev Eugeny 8-928-428-84-21
Roman asked:
Thank you for your reply. But I worry about the following: will I have any problems charging gas tank in case if I install a boiler by myself? Which gas tank capacity should I chose? House are is 91 sq.m., beam 100mm + heat insulation by rockwool 100mm + triple-pane windows. How long will I use gas reserves in case I’ll be heating only during weekend?
Editor answer:
Not at all! There should not be any problems with charging. And it does not matter who install a boiler. In your case the most ultimate solution will be a gas tank with capacity of 1000 or 1650 liters. You will charge it no more than 1 time per year – year and half.
Roman asked:
Hello! Please, advise which documents are required to be presented in your company to solve a question of independent gasification for summer house. I have only Certificate of proprietorship for the land with the area of 8 decares. There are no any documents for the house with the area of 100 sq.m. Is it possible to install a gas tank in this case? What would be the length of charger’s pipe?
Editor answer:
Hello. To install a gas tank there is not required any documents for the property. Installing a system of independent gas supply you don’t need to agree it with anybody. It’s enough to observe norms and rules. Particularly the remoteness from the constructions – minimum 5meters. We recommend 7-10 meters. The length of chargers’ pipes is different: from 15 to 40 meters.
Lev asked:
Hello! Will a gas tank stand – 58 temperature five-day period, 240 days of heating season? What would be gas flow rate for 120m2 in case of floor heat-insulation: basalt-125 and V=10cm, foamed polystyrene of medium density. Walls of beam, pine, B=16cm, thermal insulation is basalt V=5cm, from both sides A and B isospan, ceiling are also foamed polystyrene v=10 cm and isospan. Plastic windows 1400x1200, height from the floor to the ceiling 2,7m.
Editor answer:
Hello. Vertical gas tank can steadily operate till the temperature of -40 degrees. It’s more likely that in your case the ground will freeze through till the depth of about three meters and gas stops boiling. In this case there might be two solutions. The first one it to make coldproof for a gas tank laying heating cable between thermal insulation and the cistern. The second variant is to install an evaporator. It is not possible to calculate exact gas consumption considering only house characteristics. It is very important how correct heating system is mounted, the type of equipment and the weather.
Konstantin asked:
I plan to construct a house from laminated log with the total living area is about 170 sq.m. The main pipeline gas: long and expensive. Since technical knowledge is absent I would like to understand how many times per year I should charge a gas tank with capacity of 2250 liters and which heating system is more saving and efficient (do you realize arrangement of heating systems?)? Gas is required for heating and for HWS.
Editor answer:
Hello. Today the most efficient heating system is air system on gas convectors. Here you don’t need a boiler room, no need to lay out water pipes along the house, to install pumps and other equipment. This system doesn’t have heat carrier (usually toxic). And the most important is that it much more saving than water one being completely energy independent. Considering the fact that laminated log is warm material you will have to charge 1-2 times per year in case of air hearing system and 2-3 in case of water systems. You can find more details about air heating on the website: http://prosto-teplo.ru/
Elena asked:
What’s the name of your company which installs gas tanks? Who can advise concerning at least 5 years of operating?
Editor answer:
Hello.In Group of Companies “Terrikom” it’s OOO “Gran’” who realizes gasification. You can contact GC “Terrikom” about any consultations, see contacts here: http://antonio-merloni.ru/stores
Mikhail asked:
Good afternoon, please, advise what would be gas flow rate to use for heating and for gas stove. House area is about 200 sq.m. Thank you!
Editor answer:
Gas flow rate for heating very much depends on heat insulation i.e. it’s important which material is used for walls, how much floor and ceiling are insulated, area, material and window construction. Also a type of heating system is important and how correct it is mounted. In average, according to the experience it will be like the something like this: with water heating system an average gas flow rate will be 40-45 liters per m2. With air heating system on gas convectors it will be around 15 liters. You can find more details about gas convectors on the website: http://prosto-teplo.ru
Yury asked:
I constructed a house from rounded log with total area of 150 sq.m. The questions:1.Which gas tank from your Company will be appropriate?2.Which safe distance from the house should be considered for the installation?3.Which boiler would you advise to connect?4.Price
Editor answer:
For your house it will be appropriate either 1650 liters gas tank or 2250 liters. The rules prescribe gas tank installation no closer than 10 meters from the house, in tight space it is allowed to reduce this distance till 5 meters. An ideal – 7-10 meters. We recommend our clients air heating system. Here you don’t need boiler, boiler room, antifreeze and so on. More detailed on the website: http://prosto-teplo.ru If you want water system we can offer you BOSCH, BAXO or Rinnai boilers. You get to choose. You can get price for gasification and heating in our office or by yourselves on our website: http://antonio-merloni.ru/solution3
Nadezhda asked:
Hello.The total area of the house is 170 sq.m. We want to install a gas tank. What would be the price for installation, mount, “key-ready” delivey? Moscow regions, Naro-Fominsk. Thank you.
Editor answer:
In your case the cost for gasification by 2250 liters vertical gas tank with LUX mount i.e. using factory supplied socket inlet with frostproof cock and with inlet into the house will be around 260 000 rubles. It’s possible to reduce amount for 12 000 rubles and use economy version of socket inlet.
Aleksander Aleksandrovich asked:
Thanks so much to the editor for my solved question of yesterday!Andrey, an agent from the company called me and helped me in charge if a gas tank. Once again THANK YOU!
Editor answer:
Thank you that you used the services of our company.
Aleksander Aleksandrovich asked:
I installed Antonio Merloni gas tank with capacity of 1650 liters, but I couldn’t find a company which realizes charges of such small volumes. Please, advise which company can charge my gas tank in Leningrad region (20 kilometers from St.Petersburg) and their contacts if it’s possible. Thank you.
Editor answer:
Yes, of course we will try to help you. You will be contacted as soon as possible.
Pavel asked:
Do you have a representative in Samara? I want “key ready” installation of a gas tank for 100m2 What would be the cost?
Editor answer:
For your house it will be appropriate to install vertical 1000L gas tank. The price for full set will be 3800 Euro. In Samara region we have our sales agent Homutov Valery Leonidovich. He can help you in place. His phone number is 8-917-128-05-83.
Vitaly asked:
Good evening! We want to install a gas tank for three houses with total area of 1000 sq.m. to use it for heating and for gas stove. The distance from the house to a gas tanks is about 60 meters. The houses are situated in Tula region, Venevsky district. How much will equipment cost including mounting?
Editor answer:
Hello. In your case it makes sense to organize “Dual configuration”. These are two your gas tanks, 5000 liters each, connected by daisy chain. Here is a link to this variant: http://antonio-merloni.ru/solution7 Efficiency of this system will be enough for the needs of your houses. Equipment with mount will cost about 21 000 Euro including two additional inlets to the houses. To know it more precisely please, call our office with any contact phone number.
Aleksander Aleksandrovich asked:
Many thanks to the editor for prompt answers to my questions!!!Nevertheless I took the price for “LUX” and “ECO” socket inlets from the commercial offer given by your representative in our region. Direct purchase of a gas tank, as I was replied in Moscow, is possible only after invoice is issued by the representative in our region. Could you please give contacts, address or phone number of responsive person who can solve a question of purchase of your equipment. Thank you in advance.
Editor answer:
Hello. You can contact using any phone number of our office mentioned on our website. http://antonio-merloni.ru/stores or by skype terrikom-07. Ask for Tegin Andrey Anatolyevich. Or directly to his mobile phone 8-910-484-06-87.
Aleksander Aleksandrovich asked:
And one more question, “LUX” inlet is obviously made of some kind of precious metal with cost of 802 Euro or is there electronics engineering inside it?
Editor answer:
Gas service pipe LUX is a metal tube with valve for pipeline blowdown; it is equipped with Italian frostproof cock, painted by powder way in yellow color. From below it has mounted metal-plastic adapter. Realizing mounting you should make a hole in the house and the pipe is led into the house. Its price is 300 Euro. ECO socket inlet is economy version. It is protected by bitumen insulation, it doesn’t have a cock and it is not let into the house by our efforts. Its price is 60 Euro. There is no any 802 Euro prices. The cost for works+LUX materials is 1003 Euro, eco – 703 Euro.http://antonio-merloni.ru/gazifikaciya-doma
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